April 24, 2015

The News Journal in a time warp

Who knew the email era has been around for ... forty years?

Hey, I know that things like Compuserve existed in the 80s, and that some companies used something similar even in the 70s, but c'mon -- we're talking about common usage here. And that's only been around for about twenty years.

Posted by Hube at April 24, 2015 04:55 PM | TrackBack

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That's hilarious. 40-plus years?! Yeesh. The internet as we know it has only been used for about 20 years. My folks didn't even know a computer until 1998, for Christ's sake.

Posted by: Carl at April 25, 2015 11:24 AM

*own a computer

Posted by: Carl at April 25, 2015 11:24 AM

The news journal was confused with the time frame of when they were last relevant.

Posted by: Arthur at April 25, 2015 09:18 PM

Jimmy Carter's presidential campaign used email in 1976, according to "Wizards Stay Up Late." That would be forty years next year. Although he wasn't the first user, so it probably is more than forty years already,

Posted by: Dick Stanley at April 27, 2015 12:36 AM

Hi Dick -- as I conceded, there are exceptions, like Compuserve, for example. But your average person had no conception of email in 1976 ... hell, they were lucky to have a touch-tone, then!

The Internet didn't even exist -- for everyday commercial use -- until the mid-90s. That's what your layman thinks of when someone says "email."

Posted by: Hube at April 27, 2015 07:34 AM

Just because you didn't know about it doesn't make it not true. Email is a lot older than you think, and just because you don't like to know that Jimmy Carter had a leg up on you, doesn't change the fact.

When did the "computer age" begin? With the intro of the Apple 2? The IBM PC? or previous to that? (The punch card - if you don't know what that is google it - was developed for the 1890 census.

If you based things on what "the average man in the street thinks" you would probably conclude that the world if flat, that the Tea Party ran Detroit into bankruptcy, or something equally insane.

When were cars invented vs when were they common?
When was fuel injection invented vs when did it become common?
When were cell-phones introduced vs when did they become common?
Ditto smart phones.
Do you date the start of the "atomic age" to when Enrico Fermi split the atom in Chicago, or when we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima?

What age are we living in now? The post-privacy age? The age of drones? Drones for personal use have been available for YEARS. Just because you didn't know that...

Here are few things from the Wiki.

1971 SNDMSG, a local inter-user mail program incorporating the experimental file transfer program, CPYNET, allowed the first networked electronic mail[32]
1972 Unix mail program[33][34]
1972 APL Mailbox by Larry Breed[35][36]
1974 The PLATO IV Notes on-line message board system was generalized to offer 'personal notes' in August 1974.[24][37]
1978 Mail client written by Kurt Shoens for Unix and distributed with the Second Berkeley Software Distribution included support for aliases and distribution lists, forwarding, formatting messages, and accessing different mailboxes.[38] It used the Unix mail client to send messages between system users. The concept was extended to communicate remotely over the Berkley Network.[39]
1979 EMAIL written by V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai to emulate the interoffice mail system of the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey[40][41]
1979 MH Message Handling System developed at RAND provided several tools for managing electronic mail on Unix.[42]
1981 PROFS by IBM[43][44]
1982 ALL-IN-1[45] by Digital Equipment Corporation

Posted by: Zendo Deb at May 2, 2015 12:48 PM

Your statement that "the internet began in the 1990s" backs up the claim that Al Gore made all those years ago... that he "invented" the internet.

So I guess you defended him, when all of us who knew better laughed in his face.

Posted by: Zendo Deb at May 2, 2015 12:52 PM

"If you based things on what 'the average man in the street thinks...'"

Perhaps you missed the first line in the article -- I actually took a screen cap of it, y'see -- where it says "... you think people in the business world would be used to it."

Would people consider the "car age" when the first few were built ... or when many -- most -- could make use of them so that an article could then be written with the line "... you think people would be used to them"?

As for the rest of your snarky diatribe, I guess you never actually read much of this blog, despite your linking to it on your own blog. Nice work! (/sarcasm)

Posted by: Hube at May 2, 2015 05:00 PM

Also note how the article says "email is no longer a novelty" and a "routine part of business." But it was that in the 70s and 80s for the most part.

And BTW, if you quote me, please do it accurately. You quoted "Your statement that 'the internet began in the 1990s'..." but conveniently left out "for everyday commercial use."

How come? Oh, right -- so you could make a dopey "point" about me agreeing with Al Gore.

Posted by: Hube at May 2, 2015 05:06 PM

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