January 22, 2014

Villains now becoming heroes

DC Comics is making a "move" with many of its most popular villains joining hero teams. Lex Luthor becoming a member of the Justice League is the latest. You may recall that Marvel had Peter Parker's (aka Spider-Man, natch) body taken over by his arch-nemesis Dr. Octopus.

'Ya gotta like how comics' modern creators believe their most base villains can get a shot at redemption. I mean, it's not as if Luthor or Ock have ever plotted massive, Hitler-esque genocide, right? The funny thing is, just imagine if Luthor or Ock was a member of the NRA ... or was against gay marriage! Then they'd be relegated to some interdimensional hoosegow for the rest of their natural lives!

Posted by Hube at January 22, 2014 10:12 AM | TrackBack

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I really don't understand the villain worship that's infected modern comics writers. Luthor and Ock have both tried to destroy the world many times (I've never read the Spidey/Supes team-up) and suddenly we're supposed to root for genocidal megalomaniacs? No thanks.

Posted by: Carl at January 22, 2014 01:36 PM

This reminds me of Marvel's short-lived attempt c. 1970 to give Dr. Doom his own strip. If memory serves he fought Diablo, the Red Skull, the Black Panther, some demons (literally) from his past, and himself (mind copy in another body).

The difficulty, of course, was that he couldn't ever beat the good guys, and beating the bad guys didn't differentiate him at all from the heroes. Moreover, Dr. Doom as the proud, tragic anti-hero wore thin pretty quickly.

I think that the supposed point of all this today is to assert that nobody is completely good or evil, which kind of ignores that the agenda of comics is generally to present us with entertaining archetypes and stereotypes.

Now they are apparently trying to educate us. I hated educational comics then, and I don't like them any better now.

Posted by: Steve Newton at January 22, 2014 05:44 PM

Good point there, Steve. Their obsession with moral relativism really is disheartening and it defeats the purpose of superhero comics in the first place. I hate educational comics, too, especially if they try to tell me that I'm "evil" for being a conservative.

Posted by: Carl at January 22, 2014 06:06 PM

Steve: are you referring to SUPER VILLAIN TEAM-UP?

Posted by: Hube at January 23, 2014 08:49 AM

If it's Super-villain Team-Up... I remember reading the issue or two where he fights the Red skull. Can't remember where I read it, but I know I have.

Posted by: Carl at January 23, 2014 01:31 PM

Oddly enough, even though it was non-canon, I think Marvel might've reference the Superman/Spider-Man team-up in future issues.

Posted by: Carl at January 24, 2014 02:03 PM

Busiek used a glimpse of Supes-Spidey in AVENGERS FOREVER ...

Posted by: Hube at January 24, 2014 06:13 PM

Really? That's interesting.

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