December 27, 2013


Tweet from comics writer Gail Simone yesterday:

Gail wants you to feel "welcomed" and not "excluded" ... that is, unless you're a conservative/Republican/libertarian/Bible believer. In that case she still wants you to feel "welcomed" and not "excluded;" you'll just have to deal with all her nasty, snarky tweets about you and your beliefs. And if you feel "excluded" after that, well, then, that's your fault.

Posted by Hube at December 27, 2013 08:21 AM | TrackBack

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She doesn't see the irony, of course. "Inclusive" to her means "people I agree with." But if you're a conservative, she'll make snarky comments about your beliefs and belittle you for having them. If she were truly concerned about "inclusion," people of differing views would be including on her list.

Posted by: Carl at December 27, 2013 01:06 PM

She's the consummate contemporary "progressive." "Inclusion" by its very nature excludes those right-of-center, and straight white males. Except if the latter agrees with her, that is.

Posted by: Hube at December 27, 2013 07:07 PM

The original Steve Ditko Spiderman, which was more Libertarian in orientation than almost any other comic except his little-known "Question" series for Charlton, could never be run today. The fact that Peter Parker went out and fought criminals, photographed himself doing it, and sold those photographs for money to pay for Aunt May's medicine instead of trying to find a charity or government program to pay for it would be considered far too much of a right-wing message for today's world.

But, on the other hand, Rachel Maddow and ilk would never have realized that the character of J. Jonah Jameson was a satire of the liberal media ...

Posted by: Steve Newton at December 27, 2013 10:49 PM

Ditko was a devotee of Ayn Rand, I read ...

Posted by: Hube at December 28, 2013 09:46 AM

Yeah, he was. The Question and Mr. A were filled with Objectivist themes. The long-standing rumor is that he quit spider-man because of political differences with Stan Lee. That, and they disagreed with who the Green Goblin should be. Apparently Ditko didn't want Goblin to be Norman Osborn.

Posted by: Carl at December 28, 2013 02:44 PM

Lee and Ditko did have creative differences, but Ditko quit when Marvel publisher Martin Goodman put Spiderman into cartoons, using direct copies of Ditko's work, and didn't give him either credit or royalties. At one point in the mid-1970s Stan Lee said Ditko told him he'd never draw Spiderman again until Goodman paid him what he figured he was owed.

That was, in large measure, why Jack Kirby jumped ship to DC a little later--Marvel was merchandising Captain America, the Fantastic Four, and Hulk into cartoons and other venues and not giving Kirby a thing in terms of royalties.

Back to Ditko--no, he didn't want the Green Goblin to be Norman Osborne, but he wasn't willing to quit over that, at least according to interviews that Stan Lee and Steve Skeates (the writer he worked with immediately afterward at Charlton) gave.

Posted by: Steve Newton at December 28, 2013 09:32 PM

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