December 23, 2013

The Phil Robertson quote you won't see/hear

The NarrativeTM, after all:

Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.

Hey, I've never watched Duck Dynasty but from what I've seen most people on both sides of the aisle actually agree on the main point: That A&E had every right to ditch Robertson for what they felt was insensitive lingo. There's no First Amendment issue at play here. Many libs have brought up the Dixie Chicks affair -- when they spoke ill (while overseas) of then-President Bush, and subsequently people (and radio stations) were boycotting their concerts and music. It's a very fair point: Conservatives then were saying what "progressives" now are saying regarding Robertson.

Of course, the latter have much more power in the MSM. Whereas the Chicks were portrayed sympathetically after the imbroglio, with Phil Robertson the MSM is doing its level best to keep up the impression that the guy's evil incarnate. Else, why the omission of his words above, right? In addition, it's always fun to consider the moral twists that "progressives" get themselves into over such matters.

UPDATE: It seems the quote in question actually belongs to Pastor Rick Warren, not Robertson. Robertson said something akin to Warren about "not judging, but loving." See the comment section below. Thanks to commenters dan (whom I inadvertently earlier ignored -- sorry, bro) and Tearfang for bringing this to our attention.

Posted by Hube at December 23, 2013 11:50 AM | TrackBack

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A) "I may not agree with what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it." - unfortunately in our society we are nearly at that juncture. That being said, A&E had every right to do what they did, but they cant claim ignorance as he has been making speeches for years to various organizations. He and his family are born agains and devout bible thumpers (his one son who very infrequently appears on the show is a minister)so his thoughts are pretty well known. However, our society now allows for absolutely no individual thought. HE IS WRONG! is the tone we hear. That is a basis of our own individual beliefs and his belief is as valid to him as mine is to me. He is now the poster child of hate (although I dont think he could care less) even though I don't know if his beliefs permit him hate, but that is a moot point as it will be bestowed upon him.

B) The Dixie Chicks were lambasted for their comments which came after 9/11 while the country was still in a rah-rah national pride parade. Ironically, the chicks were ahead of their time. If they said those comments 5 years later they would have been stars on the Jon Stewart show and regular guests on various talk shows. Poor timing on their parts.

Posted by: Arthur at December 23, 2013 12:43 PM

While there may be the Narrative (TM), there's also Right-Wing 'News' That's Completely Made Up (TM pending). :)

All kidding aside: That quote is from Rick Warren, and not Phil Robertson. Unless he repeated somewhere that I can't confirm.

You can see it here:

Someone you linked to did some creative writing for their own purposes. Gotta love the Internet.

(That article, BTW, is an interesting and thoughtful piece defending Robertson and Christianity, despite appearing in one of those awful, biased liberal snooty literary-type rags!)

Posted by: dan at December 26, 2013 02:55 PM

Also, what up with my IP being blocked? No "First Amendment" rights here for an old Hube's Cube reader? Hahahah. Had to find some weird proxy server to get through.

Posted by: dan at December 26, 2013 02:57 PM

Hi dan: It's a spam-killing measure. Sorry for the hassle; hence I put up the new message you see at the top of the comment window.

Posted by: Hube at December 26, 2013 04:14 PM

check your sources...
"why the omission of his words above"

Well the words above are not in the GQ article... look for yourself not in there.

They are in a year prior Christian Muslim relations March 2nd 2012 Christian Post interview
*of Rick Warren*

Your source Ace of Spades- relies on a breitbart article by John Nolte which in turn relies on another one of his articles, but ultimately doesn't quote the where and when of the quote.

In fact I can't find anyone who attributes a where and when to Phil Robertson.... and only references after the GQ article... so I'm guessing it was left out bc he never said it! but if you can source a where and when I'm welcome to be proved wrong.

Posted by: Tearfang at January 16, 2014 06:17 PM

It appears you're absolutely correct, Tearfang. According to Eric Erickson at Red State (spam filter won't allow me to post the URL, but you can Google it), Robertson said something similar basically in line with what Warren said. (The quote is his, it appears, as you noted.)

"But Robertson also admonished Christians to love. He said Christians are not to judge, but to love. As Rick Warren has said ..." and then the [Warren] quote.

Thanks for keeping us straight. I'll update the post.

Posted by: Hube at January 16, 2014 07:55 PM

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