September 22, 2009


John Derbyshire:

I suggest a Constitutional Amendment to the effect that the United States not engage in any war longer than the Revolutionary War. That was 8 years and 137 days, Concord to the Treaty of Paris. The Afghanistan War would then be unconstitutional after February 21 next year.

We've been thrashing around in that worthless sinkhole of a country for eight years twice as long as it took us to defeat Germany and Japan. And the Taliban is busily active in 80 percent of the place? HEL-LO . . .

Amen. Then again, if we had considered what happened to our pals the Russians 20+ years ago ...?

Look, we should have gone in there after 9/11 to blast the living sh** out of the Taliban and al Qaeda. And we should keep doing so -- but without a massive troop involvement. Nation building? No way. Ridiculous. Just paste the damn place with cruise and other missiles whenever we get some intel. Iraq was bad enough in terms of American lives lost; let's not get to that high a number in Afghanistan.

Posted by Hube at September 22, 2009 05:07 PM | TrackBack

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You have actually hit my main point about our failure in Afghanistan.

We can conduct successful, limited military operations there anytime we need to, in order to take out a specific target.

We should have smacked down the Taliban, grabbed as much of Al Qaeda as possible in 2001 and then got the hell out. We could always go back and do that short (3-6 months) number as many times as necessary with far less cost in our lives and treasure than the current fantasy of counterinsurgency and nationbuilding.

Any time you find yourself involved in counterinsurgency operations the first (serious) question you need to ask yourself is, "Why not just give the country to these assholes and let them break it again?"

Posted by: steve Newton at September 22, 2009 05:48 PM

yah that worked so well when Clinton was doing it.

Think again, a little harder this time.

Posted by: JR at September 22, 2009 06:23 PM

Clinton was doing it half-assed. Hell, not even half-assed.

How 'bout you try again, JR. If you're not still upset about my "geek gadgets" post, that is.

Posted by: Hube at September 22, 2009 06:29 PM


Posted by: Hube at September 22, 2009 06:32 PM

Somehow I missed the part where Clinton actually launched a miltiary force into Afghanistan instead of a few cruise missiles.

But maybe in your fantasy world it happened.

Posted by: steve Newton at September 22, 2009 08:46 PM

I am glad to see my vise-like grudge holding abilities recognized.


PS guess I was guilty of a bit of drive-by reading here, sorry.

and in my fantasy world, no such deeds are necessary because Iron Man takes them all out as they are identified.

Posted by: JR at October 4, 2009 07:41 PM

It's all good, JR. :-)

Posted by: Hube at October 4, 2009 07:43 PM

The kinds of raids you envision require good intelligence, which I don't believe is generated by technological means, at least not by technological means alone. I don't think there's a good substitute for boots on the ground humint. I don't see how we can collect that, particularly in Afghanistan with all it's tribal and linguistic factions without a substantial and active ground presence. You find out stuff like this by patrolling.

Posted by: JR at October 4, 2009 07:45 PM

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