October 26, 2008

Yet many "progressives" consider him the epitome of democracy

Venezuela's Chavez wants to jail rival.

Posted by Hube at October 26, 2008 10:50 AM | TrackBack

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Name one!

Posted by: Perry Hood at October 26, 2008 05:00 PM

Off the top of my head, Dana Garrett from right here in DE. But, although I usually always disagree w/him, I respect his progressivism much more than that of many others b/c at least he backs his views up w/sensible rationales.

Posted by: Hube at October 26, 2008 05:02 PM

More: Cindy Sheehan, Danny Glover, Sean Penn, Kevin Spacey, not to mention congressfolk John Conyers, Bill Delahunt, Ed Markey, and Josť Serrano.

Of course, I found these in just a few minutes. Amazing that you couldn't do the same, eh, Perry?

Posted by: Hube at October 26, 2008 05:13 PM

boy if that title doesn't have straw man written all over it.

can you link to those people calling him the epitome of democracy?

Posted by: donviti at October 26, 2008 09:40 PM

Actually, half-wit, they all claim that Chavez is Trig Palin's real father. Y'know, something you're more than willing to blog about.

Posted by: Hube at October 27, 2008 07:43 AM

Richard Korn thinks Chavez is a righteous dude.

Posted by: G Rex at October 27, 2008 09:55 AM

Re democracy, I put George W Bush and Hugo Chavez in the same bucket.

Posted by: Perry at October 28, 2008 09:24 AM

Of course you do, Perry. You're an idiot, after all.

Posted by: Hube at October 28, 2008 09:29 AM

Disagree with Hube and you are either a "lunatic" or an "idiot"!

I think many will agree that the Cheney-Bush administration has set back open government and Constitutional government a huge amount. This is tyranny in my opinion, which is why Bush belongs in the bucket with Chavez. Shall I point out that Bush also has the lowest approval rating of any President since polling began post WWII? Folks are fed up with his decisions and his behavior.

Posted by: Perry at October 28, 2008 04:51 PM

No, the FACT is that anyone who seriously compares a man who runs a one-party government HIMSELF, and can change laws at a whim to a representative republic with checks and balances in the legislative and judicial branches is simply a lunatic. Period.

Actually, Truman had similar poll #s to Bush. And get this -- here in the US, when people are fed up they vote the guy (and/or party) out. Can the people do the same to a glorified dictator? Of course you'll say they can, but then again, you're infected with BDS which is driving you insane.

Just imagine if I compared Obama to Stalin. I wonder what you'd say. You know and I know what you'd say. So just face facts, Perry -- you're not only a lunatic, but a freakin' hypocrite to boot.

Posted by: Hube at October 28, 2008 05:04 PM

Hube, recall that Chavez was elected in a democratic electoral process, just like Bush was, although Bush's election remains in question and is highly suspicious. As a result of Bush's economic policies, we now have a partial nationalization of the banking industry. I won't claim that Bush equals Chavez, but there are similarities. Moreover, as I indicated before, in his time, Bush has greatly increased the power of the Executive Branch -- I call that dictator-like. Regarding Carter, he was not appreciated by the electorate in 1980, but hindsight has elevated his stature. I don't think Bush will enjoy such a revision.

Posted by: Perry at October 28, 2008 10:28 PM

Chavez was elected in a democratic process, yes.

If Bush's election remains "highly suspicious," you ought to be aware that many of the SAME voting machines used in our elections are used in Venezuela. Does that make Chavez's election, suspicious, Perry. Face it -- the only thing "suspicious" about the past two elections is that of moonbats' sanity.

Sorry -- but the partial nationalization of the banking industry is due to BOTH parties' incompetence. Only a dire partisan like yourself infected with BDS blames Bush.

You can call "increasing the power of the executive" "dictator-like" all you wish. But that doesn't make it so. Not by a long shot.

And I said TRUMAN, not Carter. You really DO have a reading problem, don't you?

Posted by: Hube at October 29, 2008 07:30 AM

BTW Perry, just b/c you feel Bush has increased the power of the exec, you ARE aware that there are things that can -- and HAVE -- "checked" him, most especially the courts. In contrast, Chavez has packed the courts w/his cronies, and since his cronies are also the dominant force in the legislature, he gets anything he wants.

Can our executive change laws at a whim, Perry? Chavez can.

Posted by: Hube at October 29, 2008 07:49 AM