August 21, 2008

The obvious is discovered: China cheated at Olympics

I usually refuse to watch Olympic events like gymnastics and boxing because it involves opinion. In other words, your prowess depends on the generosity of often-politically motivated judges. F that. That's why track and field and swimming are marquee Olympic events -- as they should be. It's just you, your competitors, and the clock. And computers have all but ensured that whoever wins, actually won (just ask Michael Phelps about his next-to-last race!).

And what makes crap like gymnastics worse is when the host country outrageously cheats. Anyone with an IQ over 70 (which excludes most of the DE Liberal crowd) could tell that several members of the Chinese "women's" gymnatics team were not the required 16 yrs. old. And now a computer sleuth has proven it. The IOC won't care, though the pressure is building. Can't embarrass a communist dictatorship host country, right? (God, I would have jumped up and down had anyone at NBC come down with a coughing fit on air and said, "I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE! I'LL GET EMPHYSEMA!!" I mean, did you get a load of that unbelievable pollution? It made 1970s Los Angeles' smog hassles look like pristine Alaska wilderness!)

I also like what Duffy said: "Nobody is interested in cheating unless it involves taking medals from the US." While that's not 100% accurate, obviously, it sure does seem like it more often than not. It wasn't just gymnastics, either -- did you catch the men's 200 meter final last night? The original bronze medal winner from the US was DQ'd after a judge noticed he stepped on the inside [lane] line on the turn. (He did, too -- no argument.) However, it took a US protest about the exact same infraction by the initial silver medal winner (from Netherlands Antilles) to get him disqualified. (And his line running was more blatant than the American's.)

Funny how the judges missed that, eh?

Posted by Hube at August 21, 2008 06:37 PM | TrackBack

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We couldn't be more different, could we? I love the gymnastics, but track & field? It's just running, isn't it? Pole vaulting is pretty cool though.

The IOC has launched a probe into the ages of the Chinese gymnasts. As you said, it was completely obvious that those little girls were underage, and China deserves to lose face over it. I feel bad for that child, but she doesn't deserve the medal if it was won dishonestly.

Posted by: Bronwen at August 21, 2008 10:19 PM

Hate to say it but the Olympics hasn't been of interest to me since it appears to have been infested with professionals rather than a majority of amateurs..that and politics have ruined the entire concept. As I wrote in my own blog...the real highlight for me was the pipeband during the opening ceremonies. Other than that, I'd rather watch paint dry.

Posted by: Nancy Cleveland at August 21, 2008 10:57 PM

as I said to a family member on Sunday, "I am shocked that a communist dictatorship wuld cheat."

Posted by: Paul Smith at August 22, 2008 11:30 AM

you know ive been on 4 different american forums and everybody just seemes to say the same thing.firstly, why can't you people just accept that china won? why? is it because you are too patriotic and cant accept that your country lost? someone please explain to me. secondly, the chinese provided passports to "allegedly" cover up the girls' real ages. well how else can the chinese prove that the girls are at least 16 years of age? logically, the chinese might have the same chance of accusing the american national team of being underage and if passports would be given, then they could say that they were fake. do you really think this is fair? thirdly, i dont really understand why everyone is so angry at the chinese anyway. what i have noticed is that you americans have ALWAYS criticized the host country if america didn't win in that particular olympics. go look up any post on any of the past olympic games. if they were in the soviet union, then the hosts were dirty commies. if they were in europe, then the hosts were lousy eurotrash, and if the games were held in any other country except for america, then the hosts were corrupt, poor niggers/wankers/slitty-eyed fucks etc. i dont think you americans have a right to say you are fair and judgemental. I am very sad that this is happening today, where normal people living in countries who should have won (russia,germany,south korea,australia,the uk for gods sake) dont critisize the chinese, and go on living their lives. im sure i will get flamed for this post, like i was on all the other occassions, but you got to wake up and learn the truth. most likely the site owner will not approve this post, but there you go.

Posted by: anon at August 25, 2008 03:42 PM

why can't you people just accept that china won? why?

Oh, come on. You're not dealing with some gung-ho "America at all costs" type here. I was actually glad to see our softball team defeated after its dominance, and I would have been happy to see our overpriced NBA players lose in basketball. Y'see, Most Americans believe in fair play. If Americans cheat and they get caught, you won't see the average American stick up for them. Quite the contrary. The cheaters would be ostracized. The FACT is that there is CLEAR evidence that the Chinese gymnasts were not the required age of 16. (Yes, there are SO many girls at 16 who are missing teeth, eh?) If China feels the need to cheat to win, so be it. It's not as if it hasn't happened before (remember all those "great" swimmers who came out of nowhere a few yrs. ago -- and who were all steroided up?). And it's quite easier to hide the fact in a communist dictatorship, isn't it? (Just ask the East Germans.)

And when else have Americans criticized the host country other than Moscow in 1980?

Posted by: Hube at August 25, 2008 05:36 PM

quit talking about it as if its fact- chinese people generally look younger that most other races. i know two chinese girls who are 18 but look about 14. im glad that this forum isn't full of trolls who go "fuck you america is the best and always will be".Anyways once again you seem to have misread my post. a problem which many of you have. go on any forum which discusses any previous olympic event (except the ones which were held in america)then you'll see what I mean.

"If Americans cheat and they get caught, you won't see the average American stick up for them. Quite the contrary. The cheaters would be ostracized."

oh please are you trying to tell me that american people wouldn't argue and would ostracize an american athlete who has taken drugs? at the start of these olympic games in beijing, 14(or maybe it was 15?) russian athletes were unfairly disqualified, allegedly for taking doping, even though they had passed all the tests. there was much anger and furor in russia(believe me i was there). now are trying to tell me that american people are SO fair and "judgemental" that they also wouldn't cause furor and drama?(assuming the same thing happened to them). ive talked to many american people and a lot of the time they get wound up over a tiny misjudgment in a match. so please don't post bullshit. futhermore, of course gymnasts have missing teeth imagine falling from a pommel horse while practising.

Posted by: anon at August 26, 2008 06:26 AM

chinese people generally look younger that most other races

Glad to see how you're stereotyping Asians. It doesn't matter what race the girls are -- you don't lose your baby teeth at age 16!! And there was never any evidence that those girls lost their teeth in an injury, idiot.

oh please are you trying to tell me that american people wouldn't argue and would ostracize an american athlete who has taken drugs?

Indeed I am. This just shows you how little you know about Americans. Your anecdote about the Russians doesn't mean a thing to this conversation except to say that the Russians were upset that their athletes were (allegedly) wrongly accused of using drugs. You didn't hear all the speculation about Michael Phelps possibly doping? Or using steroids? What about Dara Torres, the 41 yr. old swimmer?

In major American sports leagues, when athletes have been caught cheating, they become instant pariahs. Even when their is no definitive proof, only anecdotal (just ask Barry Bonds).

Face it -- your hatred of Americans is no better than what you accuse the Americans of doing. What -- are you European? No friggin' wonder. It must really gall you that, as a former European colony, the US has risen to become the most prosperous, technologically advanced civilization ever -- who has to protect your asses from any threat that arises. Especially ones of your own making!

Posted by: Hube at August 26, 2008 07:57 AM

now i can see whats wrong with this forum. i tried to make a civilized and normal reply to hube but it was classified as spam. so much for free speech, fucktards

Posted by: anon at August 26, 2008 10:25 AM

First of all, if you read the notice, your comment wasn't classified as spam; it stated that spam is currently a problem at the server and to try your comment again in a few minutes.

Second, no European (which you appear to be) should lecture an American on free speech. American guarantees of free speech are much more substantive than European ones.

Posted by: Hube at August 26, 2008 11:09 AM

shut the hell up cus it won't let me write anything normal

Posted by: anon at August 26, 2008 01:36 PM

Awwww ... don't go away mad! Just ... go away. Loser.

Posted by: Hube at August 26, 2008 02:09 PM

lol i love your last comment- im still trying to post my comment. its been like weeks now. this site must have some BIG spam problems.

Posted by: anon at September 2, 2008 03:15 PM