So say the simpletons over at Delaware Ostrich. Here's what they want you to "realize": Muslim extremism isn't any worse than other religious extremism, including Christian extremism. Y'know, things like abortion doctor killers, the Crusades ...
What a laugh. As if abortion doc killers are a problem of epidemic proportion. As if such loons are not ostracized to the Nth degree by American society. And you know that if someone has to bring up the friggin' Crusades that their proverbial noggin' is inhumed in the soil. I mean, it's not as if the Crusades occurred a millenium ago, right? Sheesh!
Back in the PRESENT DAY we have radical Muslims wishing death to people who draw cartoons. Who write books. Who want women's rights. Who want women to get an education. We have radical Muslims who stone people to death (mainly women) for things that wouldn't even get the victims a traffic ticket in the West. But worst of all, we have a radical brand of Islam that is too often accepted as "OK" by a substantial proportion of all Muslims. Even here in the US, 26% of Muslims under age 30 believe suicide bombing is "justified." In the mid-east, suicide bombing is seen as "the right thing to do" by much larger numbers of people if the goal is "worthy" (which can be just about anything that would make the average Westerner cringe), notably the destruction of Israel. These beliefs are held TODAY. There is no reasonable comparison to these extreme beliefs (and the total proportionate number that hold them), and the beliefs held by modern Christians or Jews.
And then consider the recent thwarted radical Muslim terror attacks in England. Sites like Delaware Ostrich pooh-pooh all the media coverage as "fear mongering," yet if the terrorists were successful, you can bet your bottom dollar that the criticism from these same sites would be never-ending. Hell, Delaware Ostrich once took days to fully explain that no, George W. Bush didn't know about the 9/11 attacks in advance; but, of course, he nonetheless "didn't do enough to prevent it." And there you have it: Prevent a terror attack? You're a "fear monger." Fail to prevent a terror attack? You're a useless fop. Take steps to prevent future attacks? You're "shredding the Constitution" and trampling our civil rights. It's the ultimate personification of the no-win scenario with these dunderheads.
Once again, the silence of moderate Muslims is deafening. Where's the condemnation? Is it because the MSM doesn't want to dilute the message that there would be no Islamic extremism if it weren't for Bush and Israel, or is it because "moderate Muslim" is a contradiction in terms?
Posted by: G Rex at July 2, 2007 05:29 PMWell, Hube, you are, as usual, missing the point. I'll let your readers go back and check your work. There are right ways and wrong ways to fix the problem that we are in. We have been choosing the wrong way. Bombing the living shit out of a country that wasn't involved in 9/11 doesn't give allies a warm fuzzy feeling. Pulling dead children out of bombed buildings doesn't help relations much either.
I was in favor of Afghanistan, because it was justifiable. I am in favor of legal means of tracking terrorists. I am not in favor of ignoring laws that are designed to protect "the people" from "the government" just because it is expedient or because you don't want to do the paperwork.
I applaud law enforcement for foiling these things, but I think we are starting to see that the London/Scotland fireballs are morons like the shoe bomber and the pizza guys in NJ. They have anger and no brains to concoct a plan. Let's keep our powder dry and not run screaming every time a foreigner says something we don't like or can be interpreted the wrong way.
Posted by: Liberalgeek at July 2, 2007 10:06 PMa muslim beats his wife he is an extremist.
A christian beats his wife he is a wife beater.
A christian stands out front of an abortion clinic he/she is a protestor
a muslim that chants allah akbar is a terrorist
a christian that hates jews is a rascist
a muslim that hates jews is a terrorist.
yep, Muslims are bad, christians are good.
Just remember your religion is better than everyone elses.
Posted by: donviti at July 3, 2007 11:20 AMBoy, was I ever right when I used the term "simpletons" at the post's beginning. Simple minds post simple thoughts! dimwitty never fails to make my point so utterly perfectly for me!
Thanks!
Posted by: Hube at July 3, 2007 11:29 AMNo, it goes like this: A Christian who kills his pregnant wife/girlfriend is a double murderer. A Muslim who kills his daughter because she was the victim of rape is a pillar of the community.
Posted by: G Rex at July 3, 2007 11:33 AMJust because you're an idiot doesn't mean you can kill a couple dozen people, 'geek.
Posted by: Ryan S. at July 3, 2007 04:05 PMI honestly think they're both full of it. Murder is murder, wife beating is wife beating, etc... doing it in the name of the unknown is pretty stupid.
Posted by: Mat Marshall at July 5, 2007 02:13 PMMat: Honestly, which is a bigger danger to civilization right now -- fundie Christianity or fundie Islam?
Posted by: Hube at July 5, 2007 02:16 PMIn this day and age, Islam. Fundamentalist Christians really mostly just make asses of themselves... I wasn't disputing that radical Islam is a very dangerous thing, just saying that I think they're both nutty and that murder motivated by radical Islam is no better and no worse than murder motivated by any radical religious beliefs.
Posted by: Mat Marshall at July 6, 2007 04:11 PMOnly way, until Islamic leaders pull up their courage to reform Islam, treat Islamists as suspects but dont deny them leitimate opportunities---put the Islamic achievers under pressure
Posted by: raja at July 13, 2007 06:31 AM