July 20, 2006

Dutch court: "Pedophile" party OK

We first caught wind of this story back in May; now, a Dutch court has "refused Monday to ban a political party whose main goal is to lower the age of sexual consent from 16 to 12." (Link.)

Judge H. Hofhuis said, "Freedom of expression, freedom ... of association, including the freedom to set up a political party, can be seen as the basis for a democratic society." I agree. Except that much of Europe's idea of "free expression" bans ideas that are deemed politically incorrect by their liberal elites. (See here for but one example.)

Still, it seems the court's ruling is going to do little "damage" to Holland politics. The "Pedophile Party" has only three members, and will need approximately 60,000 votes to get a Parliament seat. Pollsters believe the group will be lucky to get 1,000.

(h/t: Nordlinger.)

Posted by Hube at July 20, 2006 10:41 AM | TrackBack

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And that would still be 1000 votes too many.

Posted by: Anna Venger at July 20, 2006 11:42 PM

As in many other blogs/comments I notice a distortion of the facts.
First of all, I agree with the general opnion that this is happening. I think pedophiles are sick and should be treated. Also the sentence for someone who actually abuses a child can't be harsh enough, in my opinion.
Anyway. In most posts I see about this topic, it is said that the judge 'legalised' the formation of this party. It's a bit different. The judge has no way to forbid the formation of this party according to Dutch law. At this moment they are just people who publicly declare the fact that they want to change the law to fulfill their desire to have a 'relationship' with children. To achieve this, they want to form a political party.
I'm glad that we still live in a country where you can say such things even though I'm not happy with the fact that somebody says this. Now it's up to the Dutch people to make sure they NEVER achieve a status in which they receive the power to do the things they want.
Also, consider this.... What if in your country happened the same?
This one's for all Americans out there, since freedom of speech is also dear to you.
What if this happened in your country? Your laws also give a person the freedom to express these kind of ideas. Remember, as long as they don't act on their desire they are not conflicting with law. Do your laws prevent the formation of a party in which likeminded (or like-sickminded in this case) people want to express their desires and to propose changes to accomodate their needs? I think not.
As long as they don't do anything that is against the law there is nothing that can be done. And talking about that, sometimes government officials break the rules. The following link leads to a list of members of the republican party who were charged or sentenced for child abuse. So far I do not know of such a list for democrats or other countries, but it's just to show that not only the Netherlands are to be considered a Sodom and Gomoora.
http://sapphomanifesto.blogspot.com/2006/04/pedophile-party.html

Well I hope that the Netherlands will be the only country where this ever happens and that we will be able to make sure they never are granted any power.
Protect the children and the animals.

Posted by: Dick van der Velde at August 18, 2006 02:38 AM

Dick:

Thanks for your comments. I've been to Holland and I loved it. The people are among the friendliest I ever encountered. I recall the town of Oud Beirland (spelling?) most fondly.

Here in the US, groups that advocate pedophilia indeed exist (like NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association) and they probably -- legally -- could become a political party if they so desired. I am uncertain as to the state of the law on that, but it most likely would be legal. It's a fine line as advocacy of breaking the law can be a crime in itself in various instances. But, since NAMBLA exists, they could probably become a poli. party if they wanted.

My personal point, as noted, is that Europe seems to have little difficulty in allowing such a party to form, but has other "hate"-type laws that inhibit often reasonable discussion on matters of immigration, race and ethnicity. There's a blogger at the Brussels Journal that is currently under fire for some of the content of his posts. And also consider that uproar over the Danish publication of those Mohammed cartoons.

Posted by: Hube at August 18, 2006 10:21 AM