November 15, 2005

Leader of the Dems: "We stand for ... we'll let you know soon enough."

Boy, it's bad enough the current crop of Republicans in Congress don't act like Republicans; the Dems' leader Howard Dean told "Meet the Press'" Tim Russert on Sunday that his party stands for ... well, just wait and he'll tell 'yas soon:

Russert: What is the Democratic position on Iraq? Should we withdraw troops now? What do the Democrats stand for?

Dean: Tim, first of all, we don't control the House, the Senate or the White House. We have plenty of time to show Americans what our agenda is and we will long before the '06 elections.

Russert: But there's no Democratic plan on Social Security. There's no Democratic plan on the deficit problem. There's no specifics. They say, "Well, we want a strong Social Security. We want to reduce the deficit. We want health care for everyone," but there's no plan how to pay for it.

Dean: Right now it's not our job to give out specifics. (My emphasis.)

One thing they're quite specific on: "We hate George W. Bush."

Normally, at this point, I'd say the chances were great that the GOP will lose their majority in both houses of congress next November. But Dean's admission that the Dems stand for zippo gives the "Republicans" (or should I say "RINOs"?) hope. And I'm not really sure that's a good thing, unfortunately.

Posted by Rhodey at November 15, 2005 08:47 PM | TrackBack

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I think it's pretty traditional that when one party is imploding, you let it implode until things level off, which always happens. And the other party lays low. Both parties have done it in the past.

Also keep in mind that the GOP is itself increasingly divided. The party that in 2001 stood for smaller government, no nation building, etc. now has many different factions. You yourself said the GOP Congress isn't acting like the GOP. Rick Santorum is flip-flopping on major positions so fast, his staff can't even keep up. So how do the Dems know what it is they are going to have to combat in 12 months?

And, you know, "I hate George W. Bush" is just about as profound as the GOP message in 2000, which can be boiled down to, "Ignore all the successes of the last 8 years! No more illicit sex in the White House! Oh yeah, and none of that wussy nation building." :)

Posted by: dan at November 16, 2005 02:35 PM

I can't remember the exact quote, but after the GOP takeover of Congress in 1994, George Stephanopoulos said Bill Clinton would adjust his Presidency to focus on his core values, once he figured out what they were. (Rough from memory. It happened 10 years ago.)

This reminds me of that. Clinton was politically skilled enough to get away with being valueless and contentless. Are the current Democrats? Will the angry Left let them get away with going as moderate as Clinton did in order to win? (I doubt it.) If their "core values" are as far to the left as the MoveOn types would want them to be, the Republicans may do well in the next election despite their best efforts to hand things to the Democrats.

Word on the street is that Democrats are working on their own version of the "Contract with America" for next year's elections. That's a smart idea, as long as they make sure that those ideas are popular. The 1994 CWA was poll-tested and every idea had at least 80% approval, if I recall correctly. Will MoveOn allow that to happen? I'd be interested to see which ideas would be that popular and acceptable to most Democrats.

Posted by: Paul Smith at November 16, 2005 04:52 PM

"Ignore all the successes of the last 8 years! No more illicit sex in the White House! Oh yeah, and none of that wussy nation building."

Actually their message was "the economy is no where near as good as people say it is and what do we have to show for the last 8 years." They were right on both counts. The speculative bubble surrounding the dotcom industry collapsed and the economy tanked. To this day Clinton doesn't have a legacy other than scandal and the dotcom bubble. Now he's resorted to acting like Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Jeff the Baptist at November 16, 2005 07:08 PM

Yeah, I'd have to see the documentation that each of the CWA contents received 80% poll approval among the total population. You could probably count on one hand the number of things or people that have ever received 80% approval in this country, political or otherwise! :)

Posted by: dan at November 16, 2005 10:02 PM

Oh yeah...and Jeff...What did we have to show for the last 8 years ('92-'00?) Your president seemed to know.......

"It's amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency."
June 14, 2001, to Göran Persson, unaware he was still on live TV

So, take it up with him. :)

Posted by: dan at November 16, 2005 10:05 PM

I'd have to see the documentation that each of the CWA contents received 80% poll approval among the total population.

I can believe it. A lot of the CWA at least sounded good. Similar to the left's "people shouldn't go hungry in a country as great as America." The Democrats really had nothing to oppose it other than some empty "Contract on America" rhetoric.

That and most voters key heavily off of party designations to tell the good guys from the bad. If they simply polled whether they liked a policy, they'd get a much different answer from whether they liked a Republican or Democrat policy.

Posted by: Jeff the Baptist at November 17, 2005 12:29 AM

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